Felons: The New Minority

Lets just say for a moment you did a crime against society and you were sentenced to do time in prison You do your time and are released. Thus you are a free man or women or are you?                                                                                                            007

It seems that somewhere in time society has been allowed to discriminate  people with felony convictions. Thus society has created a new minority and it comes I believe strait from those in Washington DC and filtered down to the common folk known as J.Q. Public.

Don’t believe me? With the invention/discovery of the World Wide Web came also the discovery of background checks. It started out for the public to see who was living next door and around the corner. Now it has filtered into not only the work place but also housing units including what is known as Low Income or Section 8 Housing. To  top it off any person with a felony can not gain access to Section 8 Housing for the remainder of his or her life.  Thus any person, and I mean it could be your very own son or daughter, could never obtain a roof of their head unless s/he obtains help from a friend.

Is this fair to any person who has a felony record? Some may think so but it is not and it needs to stop before someone gets hurt or dies.

Are people with felonies being discriminated? The answer is yes. And now society has another case of Martin Luther King.  Rosa Parks and so forth. And thus, things need to change very quickly before it becomes to late for someone, somewhere.  What could happen you ask? Lets say a person with a felony conviction were disabled in one form or another. He or she very well may be taking medications and is seen by he doctor on regular basis. His one problem may not be getting to the doctors or to the pharmacy but where s/he could live in peace and without fear of reprisal. Thus. s/he needs to get into a low income housing unit but how to do so in this society?

There may be an answer and it comes from the very goal and vision of Thunderdome Ministry itself; A Christian campus that would serve as a halfway home for former inmates. I am not talking about dorms but actual houses very similar to the very one you may be living in at this point in time. Start up costs would run into the double digits and better. Perhaps  a more exacting projection would be around fifty million dollars. This would bring in the buying of 100 acres and building 4 bedroom ranch styled houses and a chapel with a learning center and classrooms.

  • Are felons discriminated against? Yes and sometimes even by ministries sad to say.
  • Can it be stopped? Yes
  • Will he government help? Doubtful
  • Is there an answer? Yes
  • What is he answer? Jesus

In Gods Word we see Him  posed at a door knocking. What people need to do is to open the door and allow Him inside. This means both the rich and poor, sick and healthy. bond or free.  We  know he answer and it is Jesus, but will you open you door to help another?

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave the drink?  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25: 34-40

My question to you is as follows:  will you help those Jesus called he least of these? Or will you sit on the sidelines and watch?

IF you desire to assist text me a 1-248-295-1365 and ask for my mailing address where you can send in your support.

Remember, they need the help of the very elect of Christ to keep from returning to prison.

Are felons discriminated? Yes,God forbid

. Is there hope ? Yes

Yours in Jesus

David Liebler aka Littlethunder

President/Founder/Evangelist  Thunderdome Ministries Network Inc



So here we are once again. I get to pen my thoughts and you get to pick my brain and thats what blogging is all about right?

Well the answer in its simplest form would be yes but its more complex. Allow me to expound a little.

In the very early day there were Town Criers who shouted the news from village squares. Someone came up with an invention called moveable type and the birth of the printing press was born. With that newspapers were developed forcing the Town Crier out of business.  But all was not well as the newspapers only printed what they wanted and the common person really never had a true voice thus the arrival of an item call books. In case you are new to this concept a book is nothing more than an authors words printed on paper on any subject under the sun. A collection of these items is usually located in a place called a library. In a library you might see the works of Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain or Hemingway and so forth and so on.

In order to publish a book you had to do one of several things; sell your idea to a publisher, be offered a sum of money to pen an article or two or lastly print your own work in the basement of your own house on your very own printing press. Now comes the invention of this place known as the world wide web.

On the Word Wide Web  you have multiple websites offering use of their program. One such program is called a blog. Which is what you are reading this very moment. This allowed the everyday person below the ranks and privileges of the Almighty to pen whatever is on his or her heart and or mind. To pen anything, just the the proton and neuron, has both positive and negative results. Depending on the severity of the writing will depends on which side of prison walls you will be looking at the rest of the world.

Yes writing a blog or a book or even a newspaper can be fun, exciting, profitable and perhaps daring as well as dangerous.  However how do you tell others of your works of art? There is this weird thing called advertising. It can be done by work of mouth such as your friends or by payment or even if you know the ropes getting the goods for free. And the World Wide Web is full of places one could advertise his or her wares.

I hope the above was interesting and perhaps a little educational. And I bet I could have rated on forever on the history of creative writing. However, just like myself you have other things to do before the sun sets on your day.

Thanks for stopping by I hope you will return again often. And by all means share this with others.

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The message the church won’t tell you!

The message the church won’t tell you! And Its time it’s told once again!

Wednesday, July 22, 2009

For countless ages the Word of the Lord has been preached to hundred of thousands of people. They preach of things like health, wealthy and prosperity all which is a good thing. And furthermore it is exactly what you want to hear. In 2nd Timothy 4:3 & 4 it would sound like this; For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Thus, Satan has professing Christians right where he wants them. And that is not producing the fruit they are intended to produce. However, should we place all the blame on Satan? Of course not! Instead Christians are also to blame. For they would rather run to their remote and click on a sporting event or some demonic movie that be exposed to the truth and the facts of what they are really to be doing.


The late Keith Green knew he had a job to do and it was found in Ephesians 5: 11   which reads   “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Before his untimely death on July 28, 1982 he went about telling the elect of God what they were to be doing. When brother Keith and his son died in the plane crash the Christian community not only lost a real man of God, not just a father, not just a minister of the Word but indeed a prophet of God. And since then not one person has been willing to take up the cause and tell the millions of Christians what they really need to hear.


So let us start with a basic fact straight from God’s Holy Word. Once you accepted Jesus into your life your world changed a great deal. Not only did your spiritual citizenship change so did your kingdom. You got moved from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light. You also moved into the realm of re-education; for you see you were never educated while you lived in the kingdom of darkness there was no need for you to learn anything and Satan wanted you to live in ignorance. Once you moved out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light you education began and your text book is nothing more that Gods Holy Word. For it reads in 2nd Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.


So now you know that you, as God’s people, were called out of darkness into His marvelous light. The next part that you may not truly realize is that you have been planted by the stream of living water as it is written in Psalms 1: 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

As a tree you are to provide a function and that is to bring forth fruit.

For example if you were an apple tree you would not bring froth fruit of a pear, an orange or any other fruit but that of apples. Therefore, as a Christian the fruit you are to bring forth is more Christians. This is what Keith green was shown by the Lord that to many people professing to be Christians as not bring forth more for the kingdom of God!


So what will happen to those not bringing forth more fruit? Let us take a look in John 15 and lets listen to what Jesus Himself had to say; Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.


Where does God take those who are not bearing fruit? I believe he places them back on the potters wheel to be remolded and re shaped. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work. 2nd Timothy 2:20 & 21


This is the year two-thousand and nine we are not under the old commandments of the church that said it was only the pastors job to read the Word of god or to minister the Word. The Word of God is no longer chained to the pulpit it is out in the open for ever one not only to see, read but also to act upon.

James says this


But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.


Back in the seventies when there was the Jesus Movement you would see young people of all ages going about telling others about what Jesus did for them. There was many souls saved and the church population swelled to the point were some churches had to expand. You also would see countless numbers of tracts being passed out also explaining the saving knowledge of Jesus. In due time you would find less and less people out telling others about Jesus. Perhaps they got discouraged, perhaps they ran out of money to pay for the tracts, gas for the cars but soon and even now you find extremely few telling people the Good News of Jesus.


Why is not one telling about the Way the Truth and the Light? Perhaps it is they would rather curl up on their couch and watch sports on television or maybe even a movie. Or maybe they would rather go to a restaurant and indulge in a meal. while others are being sucked into the kingdom of darkness. Or maybe the old mentality of “it’s the preachers job” has returned.   No matter who or what is to blame people are being lost. And it is high time that God’s people get back to the operating in the very ministry God has given them to begin with…. The ministry of reconciliation as stated in 2nd Corinthians chapter five as it reads starting in verse seventeen through verse twenty-one;


Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


Years ago, before there ever was a Twitter or a Facebook you would find Christians in various chat rooms. There you could find, from time to time people accepting Jesus for the first time. Today, you will find Christians on what they call social networking sites talking about things that have nothing to do with the very Lord who pulled them from the very pits of hell. They would rather talk about the right to bare arms or something political like degrading the very President of these United States..


It is high time god’s people get back to the basics of their Christian walk. That is unless he or she is ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 8:38


As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 9:33


For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16


If you are a born again Christian and have neglected your ministry of reconciliation there is good news there is forgiveness. And you can again return being a fruitful person for the Kingdom of God.

For as it is written; If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1st john 1: 9


If you do not know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and would like to go from the kingdom of darkness and sin into the kingdom of light you too can enter into this marvelous light. All you need to do is ask Jesus to come into your heart and cleans you from all unrighteousness. It is as simple as that and not only does your new life begin but so does the journey of freedom you have never known.

Your next step is to get into a Bible believing church and grow in the knowledge of His Holy Word.


If you have accepted Jesus for the first time or have returned to the fold I for one welcome you!


Was Keith Green wrong in his ministry? Of Course not! Sadly he was taken before he could complete his task. However, rest a sure someday, somewhere, God will raise someone up to take over where he left off. For more information about Keith green you may follow the following links;








Your Fired!

Friday, July 03, 2009

The title of this message was virtually set in stone by the financial magnet Donald Trump and so lets presume that instead of dear old Donald being in charge it is God.

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You have a decent job. It pays enough to pay the bills, feeds the family, put food on the table, provides a roof over your head and then there is a little money left over to go to the movies or go to the amusement park or even take a vacation. However, while you’re at work what do you do when your boss gives you an assignment; do you A. do the job asked of you? B you take a long break off the work site only to do the work later? C you don’t do the work at all?

A majority of you would answer that you would choose A and do the work right? However, what if you never did the work at all? What do you think the end result would be? Let’s take a look; The end result is one of the following but you choose the answer.


Does your boss


  1. pat you on the back and tell you did good?
  2. give you some other reward like free tickets to a baseball game or a trip around the world?
  3. after repeated requests to do your job the boss sends you out the door with your bags packed and tells you he will mail you your last check?


Of course after not doing your job after many requests you would find yourself out the door waiting at home for your last check. And not surprisingly your boss would be doing the right thing right?

So now let us take a look at your job performance as a professing Christian.

And as our base we will use the following scriptures; first John 15 1-12 and it reads as follows

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends

Now that scripture may sound complex and your job description a little vague. So let us go to another scripture Matthew 28: 19 & 20 and it reads as follows;

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Do those words clarify your job description as a Child of the highest God? Thus, your job, your task, in your walk with the Lord is to tell others about the saving knowledge of Jesus. Therefore, just like an apple tree brings forth apples and not pears your task is to bring forth more people for the Kingdom of Light. That is unless you prefer to see people living for all eternity in eternal damnation.

A vast majority of people professing to be Christians have been running to the Pastor and asking for a ministry. And I just wonder if the pastor is not just scratching his head a time or two. For if, and I say if God’s people were really reading God’s Word they would have seen and known that they already have a job to do. Allow me to show you what God has been saying for countless generations; If you have your Bibles at hand open up to 2nd Corinthians 5:17-18 and it reads as follows;

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Thusly, your task as a born again Christian is to do something that may make you feel uncomfortable and tell others about what Jesus did for not only you, but for the countless thousands upon thousands. For you see, you, yes you are an ambassador for Christ as it is written in 2nd Corinthians 5: 19-20

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

For countless years the church brainwashed the congregations it was the pastors job to reach the lost. Just like they told them that the Word of God was only for them to read. Well, here is the skinny, they lied and countless millions like you have been lied to. That is exactly where Satan wanted them and has held them. Well the lie and the liar is exposed here and now! Now you know the truth and as we know God is truth and in His is no lie.

This means only one thing. As Christians we have a job to do! We represent not only ourselves, not only Jesus, not only God, but we represent the total Kingdom of God. And those who do not do the job God will purge them like a person who is refining gold. The choice is yours and yours alone what will you do with this Man of God named Jesus? Will you be selfish and keep Him to yourself or will you share the love and tell others?

Herein, God, for the most part has issued you your matching orders. He has given you a job to do as one of His ambassadors. What will you do? Will you run away as a coward? Or will you stand tall and do your task with pride and honor?

You need to remember that God loved you so very much and wanted to restore fellowship with you that He gave all He had. So He could have fellowship with you and countless millions like you. God did not do all this just to condemn the world but through Him the world might be saved as it is written in John 3: 17 listen to what God said for yourself; For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Or so that you and me would and could be reconciled to Him.


So dear friend are you going to run away from your task ashamed of what you know? For If you do then you need to consider these words; And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels. As it is written in Luke 9:23-26.


God loves not only you, dear Christian! But god loves the whole world. This is why He gave not just anybody but instead His only Son. So you can have life and life more abundantly. And here is good news for every one.


If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. As it is written in 1st John 1: 6-9


So, no matter if you never have received Jesus as your Savior or if you have known Him for ages this very day, this very moment can be and should be a time of newness for you. for as it is written.

(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.) 2nd Corinthians 6:2


So which way will you choose? Life eternal with God or eternal damnation with the father of lies? Will you go about in these last days with itching ears only hearing what you want so that you feel good? Or will you obey God’s words and not only accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior but also obey the words of your Commander that gave you orders as well as the ministry of reconciliation.


IF you are saying that you have neglected your duty as a member of the household of faith I have good news for your. And if you are saying that you would like to know this Jesus who gave His life for you so that you can have life and life more abundantly then right this moment won’t you ask Him for forgiveness? But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thane heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.   For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. As it is written in Romans 10: 8-10

For this is your time to get things right with God. Which road will you choice this very day?


It’s not often that yours truly pens an update but since I don’t do so I figured  that my followers deserved such. So i you will bear with me I will proceed making his as brief as possible.

Thunderdome Ministries update

As you may know I moved the website over to Weebly dot-com and combined it with Littlethunders Castle. This has saved time when it comes to doing any editing or adding content. Another reasons was that http://www.webs.com stopped allowing users access of usage of the html modules. Many people have left http://www.webs.com over this and I am one of them.

As far as ministry as a whole goes? There is a bright side as the ministry was given a much-needed printer. And I welcome the addition  indeed. As for the future of the ministry? Financially speaking I still have to pull money out of my own pocket to meet its various needs as the ministry has not obtained any sponsors. Thankfully the only real costs is that of the domain name and even that will cease due to its costs. And of course the lack of funding prevents the ministry from obtaining a much-needed campus to helping Christians in need of temporary housing.

Personal Update

As you may know already,  yours truly is on disability and will never be allowed to work again  this has various ramifications in its self and allow me to explain.

  • My Asus G60 needs a new keyboard and maybe some other work.
  • Obtaining a new place to live is nearly impossible. What I receive per month is not enough to pay rent on an apartment nor that to make house payments.
  • Sometimes my 2007 Dodge Caliber needs work and it either has to wait or it does not get done.

All in all between me and the Lord we are doing pretty well and like every human on this planet there are problems that only HE can take care of. Yes I believe in God and His Word,  for me there are many proofs that He is indeed real.

  • Do I need help  with housing right in the here and now? The answer is a big surrounding yes. I am in need of at least a 2-3 bedroom ranch styled house, with basement and garage with large lot/50 acres in the Holly or Fenton Michigan area all debt free. This would take me out of my present situation and help with various health issues. Can God provide? Indeed He can. All it takes is one or two individuals who hear His voice to make it become reality. (BTW…God would need to provide the furniture for my “man cave” as i have no furniture as well.)
  • AS far as Littlethunders Castle? a new page was added yesterday  titled Littlethunders Bucket List. I hope you will check it out soon.



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Rest Easy

Rest Easy

Author: Evangelist David Liebler

Date: Friday, April 04, 2014

This message is complements of one Andrew Peterson who wrote the song titled Rest Easy. In his song you could find many truths that perhaps will speak even to you in some special way, shape or form. Despite how the song ministers to us there seems to be a simple truth of the matter. However, before we get to the punch line, if you will let’s take a look how we got to this point.

When we were kids it seemed we always tried to be better than someone. Whether it be our friends, parents or even our brothers or sisters there was always some type of endeavor to prove we were the better. Remember how it was? You just had to build the better stack of leaves that fell in the fall. In the winter it was the best snowball or snow fort. In the Summer it was how well you mowed the lawn and trimmed the hedges and sidewalks.

On oh that dreaded lawn! Remember if you thought you missed a spot you just had to go and find it and make it right? There was no rest until it was made right by both your parents and yourself. You just knew it had to be perfect if you wanted to get paid for the task. There just was no rest whatsoever.

All this transferred itself into our adult life where we always strived for perfection until we frankly beat out the Jones if you will. You had to have the better house, the better car, the better television set and so on. In the era of CB’s it even was how far could you talk to someone: it was no longer if you could talk to your friend down the street, oh no. Instead it was what country could you talk to next legally/ And by George if you could not do it legally you would try the dark side by going to that certain person who could get you the right equipment for the least amount of price. All in all our life seems to be one of never being able to rest until we proved we were the best.

Does all this gong about move into the realm of our walk with God? Do we unknowingly going about trying to prove to God and other members of the household of faith who we are? Is there some form of doubt in our own mind that we just cannot rest until we prove something to someone and to God?


Let us take a look at Hebrews chapter four and see what it has to say:

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Hebrews 4: 1-11

Now listen, if you will what Matthew Henry has to say about this issue of rest:

“The privileges we have under the gospel, are greater than any had under the law of Moses, though the same gospel for substance was preached under both Testaments. There have been in all ages many unprofitable hearers; and unbelief is at the root of all unfruitfulness under the word. Faith in the hearer is the life of the word. But it is a painful consequence of partial neglect, and of a loose and wavering profession, that they often cause men to seem to come short. Let us then give diligence, that we may have a clear entrance into the kingdom of God. As God finished his work, and then rested from it, so he will cause those who believe, to finish their work, and then to enjoy their rest. It is evident, that there is a more spiritual and excellent sabbath remaining for the people of God, than that of the seventh day, or that into which Joshua led the Jews. This rest is, a rest of grace, and comfort, and holiness, in the gospel state. And a rest in glory, where the people of God shall enjoy the end of their faith, and the object of all their desires. The rest, or sabbatism, which is the subject of the apostle’s reasoning, and as to which he concludes that it remains to be enjoyed, is undoubtedly the heavenly rest, which remains to the people of God, and is opposed to a state of labour and trouble in this world. It is the rest they shall obtain when the Lord Jesus shall appear from heaven. But those who do not believe, shall never enter into this spiritual rest, either of grace here or glory hereafter. God has always declared man’s rest to be in him, and his love to be the only real happiness of the soul; and faith in his promises, through his Son, to be the only way of entering that rest.”

John Darby’s Commentary reads as follows

“The apostle goes on to apply this part of Israel’s history to those whom he was addressing, laying stress on two points: 1st, That Israel had failed of entering into rest, through unbelief; 2nd, That the rest was yet to come, and that believers (those who were not seeking rest here, but who accepted the wilderness for the time being) should enter into it. “

According to Torry, Smith’s Bible Dictionary, Easton’s Bible Dictionary the meaning of the word rest is as follows:








From answersingenesis.org I came across this that may be of interest to some readers:

The ‘rest’ of Hebrews 4 clearly refers to the Kingdom of God. This type of rest was alluded to right back at the time of creation, as well as at the time of the Exodus. Nowhere in the text is it equated with the seventh day of creation, nor is there any grammatical or contextual data suggesting any such equation. Thus, the progressive creationists’ claim that the seventh day of creation is still continuing is without any exegetical foundation whatsoever, making it a worthless argument for non-literal creation days.


If the word rest truly means Rest, Restitution and Restoration:


Does this mean that we are attempting to pay God back for what He has done?


You think about that for a moment and in so doing ask yourself this question: Am I trying to pay back God? Frankly, if what Jesus said on the cross when He said “It Is Finished” is correct then we are going about trying to simply pay Him back when there is no need to whatsoever.

Therefore it simply comes down to this in worldly terms: that snow fort you tried to make perfect it is already done. That perfect snowball has already been accomplished. But wait, this also means one other thing and it has to do with your level of doubt in this entire situation.

Have you ever went fishing off the banks of some river? If you put no worm on that hook you could try all the live long day and still catch nothing. So you strive from seven in the morning until three in the afternoon and still have not caught a single fish. Thus there was truly no rest for what was to be your lazy Saturday and you were spouse to wash the car at high noon.

But wait, lets say you bated that hook what do you think would have transpired? It is true to form that if you give a fish something to eat they will tend to tell everyone about it and by high noon you would have caught not only your limit but was able to enjoy the remainder of the day with a washed car and being plopped down in front of the television set able to watch your favorite team in peace and quiet, unless that is a certain someone has given you a honey do list so long you would think it was a Christmas list Santa got from some kid down the street.

The point of the matter is as follows:

1. As Christians we have nothing to prove to God and to others in the faith.

2. We do not have to ever defend God for anything whatsoever. God is very able to defend Himself and more than likely has been doing quite well at the task anyway.

3. Accept the fact that when Jesus said “It Is finished” accept Him at His Word.

4. Realize that you do not have to repay God anything for what He has done.

5. If there is or has been any form of doubt ask His forgiveness and move onward.

I don’t know about you but I feel good when I mow a lawn or trim a hedge and see that it is in such a menner that I can take a long rest until it needs cutting again.

Thus, I can truly







The following comes from


Using Strong Concorance



occurs 275 times in 265 verses in the KJV
Page 11 / 11 exact matches (Hbr 4:3 – Rev 20:5)



kä-tä’-pau-sēs (Key)

1) a putting to rest

a) calming of the winds

2) a resting place

a) metaph. the heavenly blessedness in which God dwells, and of which he has promised to make persevering believers in Christ partakers after the toils and trials of life on earth are ended





1) a keeping sabbath

2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians



Strong’s G3062 – loipos



) remaining, the rest

a) the rest of any number or class under consideration

b) with a certain distinction and contrast, the rest, who are not of a specific class or number

c) the rest of the things that remain

Hbr 4:3

For 1063 we which 3588 have believed 4100 do enter 1525 into 1519 rest 2663, as 2531 he said 2046, As 5613 I have sworn 3660 in 1722 my 3450 wrath 3709, if 1487 they shall enter 1525 into 1519 my 3450 rest 2663: although 2543 the works 2041 were finished 1096 from 575 the foundation 2602 of the world 2889.

clip_image001Hbr 4:4

For 1063 he spake 2046 in a certain place 4225 of 4012 the seventh 1442 [day] on this wise 3779, And 2532 God 2316 did rest 2664 the seventh 1722 1442 day 2250 from 575 all 3956 his 846 works 2041.

clip_image001[1]Hbr 4:5

And 2532 in 1722 this 5129 [place] again 3825, If 1487 they shall enter 1525 into 1519 my 3450 rest 2663.

clip_image001[2]Hbr 4:8

For 1063 if 1487 Jesus 2424 had given 2664 0 them 846 rest 2664, then would he 302 not 3756 afterward 3326 5023 have spoken 2980 of 4012 another 243 day 2250.

clip_image001[3]Hbr 4:9

There remaineth 620 therefore 686 a rest 4520 to the people 2992 of God 2316.

clip_image001[4]Hbr 4:10

For 1063 he that is entered 1525 into 1519 his 846 rest 2663, he 846 also 2532 hath ceased 2664 from 575 his own 846 works 2041, as 5618 God 2316 [did] from 575 his 2398.

clip_image001[5]Hbr 4:11

Let us labour 4704 therefore 3767 to enter 1525 into 1519 that 1565 rest 2663, lest 3363 any man 5100 fall 4098 after 1722 the same 846 example 5262 of unbelief 543.




1) to make quiet, to cause to be at rest, to grant rest

a) to lead to a quiet abode

b) to still, restrain, to cause (one striving to do something) to desist

2) to rest, take rest

Hbr 4:8

For 1063 if 1487 Jesus 2424 had given 2664 0 them 846 rest 2664, then would he 302 not 3756 afterward 3326 5023 have spoken 2980 of 4012 another 243 day 2250.

How to be a Winner

The following was written in 2007 and never has been edited. Furthermore it has been preached in various assisted living homes and prison in Michigan.

I hope you will find it useful and share it with others as God shared it with me.

Yours in Christ

David Liebler aka Littlethunder

How to be a Winner

Author: David “Littlethunder” Liebler

Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007

If you ever played monopoly, poker or any other game you know this one certain fact: you play not to lose instead you play to win. The US Army went into World War Two not having any intentions of losing. Instead they went to win and win they did.

2nd Timothy 6.12

12. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good

profession before many witnesses.

Ephesians 6.10-17

10. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16. Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Why should we stand and fight? Why not just kick back and just let things fall where they will?

Ephesians 5.1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

For God is a victorious God. He stands up for what He believes in. He is the one who died, rose again and conquered death. He is the one who bore the strips on his back so you can have healing. He is the one who has made it possible that we can have life everlasting.

Listen again to what Paul told Timothy.

1. Fight the good fight of faith

2. lay hold on eternal life

First, when you are fighting any fight. you do not fight to lose. You fight to win. Allow me to inform you of this very thing. THERE ARE NO LOSERES IN HEAVEN! There is only winners. God loves a winner. You win by putting your faith into action. You put your faith in action by using every piece of the armour of God. What are the essentials of the armour of God? Lets read it again.

1. loins girt about with truth

2. having on the breastplate of righteousness;

3. feet shod with the preparation of the gospel

4. taking the shield of faith

5. take the helmet of salvation

6. and the sword of the Spirit

Just a note here. notice that “faith is a shield.” What do shield do? they protect. They are used in a defence mode. In battle when arrows and darts are going at you, you hoist up your shield to protect and cover you.

After some research, the breastplate was designed to have both a front and backside to it. Just like you have a front and backside to a shirt. It was put on over the head and there was straps on each side about waist high to synch the covering on tighter. Its task was to protect and guard against any thing that may try to injury the vital organs such as the heart, lungs and so forth. the back protected your kidneys, spine and other vital organs.

Also the shield was not made out of leather as some suggest. If this were true then the arrows, spears, axes and maces would just go right through. Would you want such cheap protection. The shield and the breastplates were made out of metal and weighted about 25 pounds.

Next all those movies you seen where men wielding their swords with one hand is only a movie. Those swords were very weighty and would weigh anywhere from twenty to thirty pounds. Thus, a man of any size would need to use both hands to play the game of hack and sack per se.

Therefore, beloved, you are one very armed and dangerous person in the army of God. You have been give all the weapons, both offence and defence that you will ever need to win the day.

When the enemy comes and says to you that you are sick you can simply tell the enemy that you are healed in the name of Jesus. For it was by HIS stripes we are healed as it is written in Isaiah 53.5 “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.”

This healing includes every part of our being not just the diseases that are in the world but also those that affect our minds. God wants us to look and be like Him. and why not? after all we were created in HIS image so that is what HE should see. That is what others should see is God.

When they told me I was legally blind I looked to the Answer giver. I read where Paul was blind and he seemed to have greater insight to the Word. But I was not content I still looked for an answer. Then one day I was watching an Evangelist on Television, his name really does not matter, he said something that was profound that made me look even deeper. He said “how can you minister healing to others when you yourself are sick?” That is when I prayed that God would send me someone who was a Christian to show me the way. And that is what God did.

In late January I had cryo-laser surgery on both retinas to help make them stable. Three weeks later I had the cataract and ocular lens transplant done. I healed ahead of schedule and on May 18th I had the left eye done. All because God made the way. All because I learned to reach out to God, just like the woman with the issue of blood. And let God be God.

Is this all a miracle? indeed it is for if I had not taken God at His word. If I would have just settled for second best I would still be legally blind, I would have lost the battle. And because God is a winner that makes me a winner as well simply because I know how important it is to put on the full armour of God.

What made the Roman Army so powerful? They fought to win. A person in the Roman Army was required to be enlisted for twenty-five years. Thus, you had a choice; either you enlisted in the army for the required twenty-five years or be a gladiator for seven years. Either way you had to fight. And fight you did to stay alive.

Are you armed and dangerous? You bet you are. In fact you are so dangerous you should be on the FBI’s most wanted list. You should be so armed and dangerous that your picture is on the local post office walls as being wanted person.

Not long ago I heard the following story;

Seems there was a father and son took a trip to their nearby post office to send out some packages. The boy passed by the wall of the FBI’s most wanted. Underneath it read “armed and dangerous.” The young lad asked his father about the pictures and the father had to explain why the men and women were on the wall. The boy pipes up and asks his father “well if they were so dangerous why didn’t they capture them when they took their picture?”

Are you armed and dangerous? According to the scripture you sure are. You are so well armoured that you can win the day.

Paul wrote;

“lay hold on eternal life” Laying hold of something is a action phrase it means you are willing to do anything to keep what you have. Just like a mother will hold on to her child when going through a store or an elevator. She does so so she will not lose her child.

Paul also wrote in Ephesians 6.10

“Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.”

Notice it says:

1. be strong in the Lord

2. in the power of his might

God wants His people, that’s you, to be winners, to be victorious. Regardless of the situation. Regardless the circumstances, Regardless the condition. God wants you to be a winner.

If you are sick. You can overcome. There is healing for even you today. It does not matter what the illness. God wants only the best for you.

IF you do not know Jesus as your lord and personal saviour and you want to join the winning side. I have great news for you. You can join the winning side by accepting Jesus this very day into your heart and life. For today is the acceptable day of salvation.

If you want healing in you body God has already made a way for you. for today is your acceptable day for healing. God does not give out second bests. He has the best for you.


  The following teaching was wrote several years ago and has been preached in both assisted living homes and prison setting. These notes have never been edited            .th


By: David “Littlethunder” Liebler

Text: in the highest sense belongs to God (Isa. 6:3; Rev. 15:4), and to Christians as consecrated to God’s service, and in so far as they are conformed in all things to the will of God (Rom. 6:19, 22; Eph. 1:4; Titus 1:8; 1 Pet. 1:15). Personal holiness is a work of gradual development. It is carried on under many hindrances, hence the frequent admonitions to watchfulness, prayer, and perseverance (1 Cor. 1:30; 2 Cor. 7:1; Eph. 4:23, 24). (See SANCTIFICATION.)

Lev 20:7-8

Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the Lord your God.

8. And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am the Lord which sanctify you.

1st peter 1; 15,16

But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

16. Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

What is and is not holiness?

Holiness I don’t believe invovles how big a hot you were to God’s house nor the brand name of a personas shoes or suit. Indeed is is not how high you may jump, how far you can roll on the floor. Furthermore holiness is not how loud a person preaches even if he yells and screams.

In fact most of the time when I read of men like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and even Moses they seemed to be pretty mild mannered, ill clothed, of poor speech.

I tend to think that those men of God who take time every day to sit be really quite to meditate on Gods Word and ways seem to get further.

King David wrote in Psalm chapter one

1. Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Then in Psalms 47:10 he writes

Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

11. The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge

In order for David to have written these things he had to have known something about them. In other words…. David in all hos troubles, trials, tribulations and storms in his life found the eye of the storm where there is peace . And that peace is with God. And wherever God is there is not only peace but you will find God’s glory and His holiness.

Look at Moses; Dear old Moses had it all. A man after Pharaohs heart. But he gave it all up for the truth.. However after God took him through the refining fire out came a man who would not only set the people free but as we have seen was called to write the very words God spoke to him.

The walk of holiness is a long road. And we face on this earth many storms; some are seemingly never ending. Yet you can rest a sure of this. In the eye of that hurricane or tornado in your life there is peace, love and the ability to have a sound mind.

Funny thing. So many people believe that holiness has something to do with how you dress, how much money you may or may not have. But this is far from the truth. For if holiness were found in earthly things then every man, woman and child found in the scriptures would have to be counted out. Remember it is the foolhish things of this world that confound the wise.

1st Cor 1:23-31

23. But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24. But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27. But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28. And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29. That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

31. That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

The godly life, the holy life is there for the taking. A person simply needs to get past the storms of life; the tornados and hurricanes of life if you will and get into the eye of the storm where there is that peace that surpasses all understanding.

Let me share this with you in closing;

When God was about the create man, says a Jewish legend, He took into his counsel the angels that stood about His throne.

“create him not,” says the angel of justice, “for if Thou doest he will commit all kinds of wickedness against his fellow men; he will be hard and cruel and dishonest and unrighteous.” “Create him not.” Said the angel of Truth, “for he will be false and deceitful to his brother-man and even to Thee.” Create him not,” said the angel of Holiness, “ he will follow after that which is impure in Thy sight and dishonor Thee to thy face.”

Then stepped forward the angel of Mercy (God’s best beloved} and said: “Create him, our heavenly Father, for when he sins and turns from the path of right and truth and holiness I will take him tenderly by the hand and speak loving words to him, and then and lead him back to Thee.” — J.A. Clarks

God is calling you, my friend back, He is calling you back from the storms of life. From the life of sin and grief. He is calling you my beloved back to the eye of the storm where there is peace and holiness. That my friend is a place where no man of any nation can take you.

Now my question is to you this very moment; Are you willing to make the journey ?

Could this be your prayer today? I hope so.

“This is the secret of the holy

Not our holiness but HIM;

Jesus empty us and fill us

With Thy fullness to the brim.”


Considering the following verses from Gods Word how much grace, mercy and forgiveness should we all have to both bond(those in prison or freed form prison) or free?

But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:4-9

Gods Freedom

Want to see what God can do for you and your church? then do the following;

#1…understand that God is NOT a puppet that you can control at will. Cut the strings that have Him bound.
#2…God does not live in a cardboard box as if He were homeless. Let God out of the box and watch Him move freely in you midst.

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Mountain Of God

The following teaching has been used several times while preaching at either a nursing home or in prison. Like 99.999% of the time what you will  read below is unedited and remains in its original state.th

Lastly, I am available for speaking engagements at your church during this summer of 2014. For more information have your church send me an email @ littlethunder727@hotmail.com  As always I share whatever the Holy Spirit desires at the time.

And now todays message;

Mountain of God

I want to take you on a journey. It will not take long. You will not even have to leave the confines of where you are right now. You need no money whatsoever. You don’t need to pack a suitcase or even a backpack.  In fact I am proud to inform you that you will not even have any need for food or water. Nor will you have need for a new pair of shoes. Yet, through it all you will need to climb a mountain. And what is amazing you will not need to board a plane or train to get to there.
The truth of the matter is this; all you will need is the following two items first a willingness to climb and second the desire to learn. There is a downside to this journey that some may not like. That is you must climb the mountain alone. No help from your friends, parents or even your husband or wife. This is a journey you need to take alone.

Exo 3:1   Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

Exo 3:12   And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.

Exo 19:3  And Moses went up unto God, and the Lord called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
4.  Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself.
5.  Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6.  And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Now, I bet you are wondering what is on top of the mountain right? Well, this you can rest a sure of; if God sent you up the mountain there has to be something at the top right?

So lets see what is up there. But first you need to do something that even Moses did when he got to the top.

Exodus 3.4 & 5 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
5.  And he said, draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.

Take off my shoes but why? Now I wonder if you realize why God required Moses to remove his shoes. The answer is rather easy; to remove your shoes or sandals before God is a sign of submission to His authority and your willingness to give up your rights.

Now that you have taken off your shoes the next stages transpires.
First there needs to be praise and worship; Listen to what David wrote in   Psa 48:1   Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness.
And of course when we praise the Lord His does inhabit our praises. Thus making us drawn closer to Him.
Now as you praising God in the privacy of your own quarters you may get lost in praising God. When I began years ago I would be with God only a matter of thirty minutes and then go about my day. Later, I found how much I loved praising God without anyone to let me know of my bad singing or anything else like that. Today, I enjoy spending hours upon hours with God in praise and worship. The more and longer I praise Him the deeper I fall in love with Him.
After a while I realized I was losing track of time and sometimes find myself on my face on the ground before God. What I thought was only a matter of several minutes in actually turned out to be four and five hours in prayer and meditation before God. Thus, I had climbed the mountain and was with God.
I remember what transpired on one of my birthdays several years ago. I was scheduled to go to Greenfield Village with some brothers in the Lord. Long before they were to arrive I set out to do my morning devotions as usual. Around seven in the morning God called me up to the mountaintop. The next thing I know I was hearing the voices of my brothers in the faith and I was still on my face before God. By the time I got up at least to my knees it was closing in at eleven in the morning.  As I was coming down from the mountain they joined in with prayer and praise. It was not until nearly high noon before we finally left my apartment and made our way to Greenfield village.

What to know what transpires when you are on the mountaintop with God? Listen to what the very Word of God has to say…

Isa 2:3   And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Isa 40:9   O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

Jer 31:23  Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof, when I shall bring again their captivity; the Lord bless thee, O habitation of justice, and mountain of holiness.

Eze 20:40   For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord God, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the first fruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

Dan 9:20   And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the Lord my God for the holy mountain of my God;
21.  Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
22.  And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
Micah 4:2   And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Do you desire to get close to God? Are you tired of living in the Sahara Desert and want to drink of the Living Water that is at the top of the mountain? Then why not make today the first day towards reaching the summit.   Will God call you everyday to make that climb? Perhaps not! But each day can be and should be filled with the adventure and prospect of being called to the summit.
Will others know that you have been with God? They did when it came to Moses. Listen to what it says in Exodus 34.29-35
29.  And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses’ hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
30.  And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.
31.  And Moses called unto them; and Aaron and all the rulers of the congregation returned unto him: and Moses talked with them.
32.  And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that the Lord had spoken with him in mount Sinai.
33.  And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.
34.  But when Moses went in before the Lord to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel that which he was commanded.
And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses that the skin of Moses’ face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.

Thus, the more time you spend with God the more God’s glory will shine through you. 

So, beloved, are you ready to climb the very mountain of God like Moses did? Or will you be one of many who chose to say at the base of the mountain and simply watch?
Remember this very simple fact; the closer you choose to get to God the closer He will draw closer to you.

In closing let me share this with you;

When Stanley found Livingstone, the great missionary who spent thirty years in darkest Africa, he wanted him to come back to England with him, but Livingstone refused to go. Two days later he wrote in his diary: March 19, my birthday. My Jesus, my King, my life, my all. I again dedicate my whole self to Thee. Accept me and grant me, O gracious Father, that ere the year is gone I may finish my work. In Jesus name I ask it.” A year later his servant found him on his knees dead.”



Psalm 97:10“Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.”

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God Does This

the following message God laid on my heart several years ago. I present this teaching to you unedited.In the next few weeks it very well could turn up on Thunderdome Ministries website.

Over the last few months I have heard professing Christians saying that God does not punish His people. This dear friend is one of the biggest lies I ever heard coming out of the church today. And let me show you according to scripture why this is so. Now if you believe the Word of God is true and does not lie then we are in agreement at this point so allow me to demonstrate.
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”  John 16: 7-11   Mind you those were the very Words of Jesus Himself. And I really don’t believe you are going to call the Son of God a liar are you?
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” 2nd TI 3:16
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.” Hebrews 12: 6-11
If God does not correct His people then the Hebrew children wandered in the wilderness for nothing, King Saul lost his empire for nothing and the list of people God corrected in the scriptures was nothing more than a fairy tale. No dear reader God does correct and disciplines and punishes His people otherwise what would the point be of having the Holy Spirit here on earth after Jesus left. What this would be like would be like the days before the flood.
How does God do this by usage of His Word through either prophets teachers, that HE set forth to do HIS work. I am sorry my friend if you believe that God does not punish His people. IF you truly believe this then I highly suggest you get into reading God’s Holy Word and  listen to the truth.
God is truth and in Him is no lie!

Psalm 33:4-5“For the word of the LORD is right and true; he is faithful in all he does. The LORD loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of his unfailing love.”

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